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Av: Bob Marshall

Ah. As to that core point – I agree. My dissent (if any) stems from repeated observation that focussing on agile as a purely local optimisation of the development teams does not (and cannot) effect the...

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Av: Niklas Bjørnerstedt

Bob, your last point touches on a problem that is a lot more general than just agile. Just look at the way many lean consultants copy the solutions of their lean heroes without any perspective on the...

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Av: Mike Cohn

Hi Niklas– Interesting post. One of the things I’ve always believed is that agile was the second phase of the object revolution. First, we had to learn how to program with objects. Then we had to learn...

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Av: Niklas Bjørnerstedt

Hi Mike, We have similar views then, only I see it more as a gradual shift from one to the other. Iterative and incremental development came early, automated testing and continuous integration came...

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Av: Deborah Hartmann Preuss

Re: Mike C’s note: My initial feeling upon discovering oo was that it was about «healthier boundaries» and that is what I see as helpful in Agile too. Perhaps that is why we keep trying to apply Agile...

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Av: Bruno Borghi

Waterfall is still alive and well. I don’t think that Agile will die before Waterfall. And Waterfall protects Agile from trivialization: Waterfall reminds us of the essence of Agile. OO is a technical...

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Av: Niklas Bjørnerstedt

Bruno, I am certain the core ideas in agile will be alive in ten years but I am not so sure «agile» will be alive. Object orientation became boring long before everyone had adopted it. Agile can become...

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